SCAMS
Hi Everybody,The only basic difference between this example and the previous one is that the scammer is probably going to wait until his THIRD contact before he asks YOU to send any money anywhere. He expresses an interest in your ad, and wants to buy your item even though it seems he knows very little about what you are selling. He will eventually send you a very good forged cashier's check or money order for considerably more than you are asking. It will initially clear your bank!! He will eventually ask you to mail the difference in the amounts to his "shipper". You figure you have nothing to lose because you already have the money for your tractor and you still have the tractor until the shipper comes to get it. Then the check bounces, then you're left holding the bag. Here's how his one looks. It's another answer to the same ad that Gene placed: |
From: Grossman Philips (grossmanphilips2000100@yahoo.com)
Sent: Sat 8/28/10 11:39 AM To: gene@email.com Dear Seller, I'm Philips Grossman residing at Los Angeles, Ca 90049. I saw your item posted for sale at the retiredtractors.com/Classified sales website, and i am willing to purchase the (Chase Shingle Mill) posted for sale, i want you to kindly get back to me with its present status of condition and your last selling price offer that you are willing to let it go. Are you the original owner ? and how long have you been using it? Many Thanks, Philips G. |
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Notice that the email is usually written in poor English with very poor punctuation. In this case the scammer DID fill in the name of the item in his own "form letter". So, Gene answered like this, purposely pasting in that sentence the same way, along with an absurd claim telling how long Gene has been using the machine.
Hi Phillips G.
Yes, my (Chase Shingle Mill) posted for sale, is still for sale. It is in excellent working condition. I have $6000 invested it it. I am the original owner; I bought it in 1889 and have been using it ever since. Gene Tencza |
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The next contact you get from them they begin to lay the groundwork to eventually explain how THEY end up getting money from YOU...
This is what this scammer replied...
From: Grossman Philips (grossmanphilips2000100@yahoo.com)
Sent: Sun 8/29/10 10:27 PM To: gene@email.com Thanks for contacting me back, I'm okay with the explanation, price and condition. But i will be leaving my home town state tomorrow to another home town state in NEVADA STATE for a speculative purpose with our company and board of directors. As per payment i will have to instruct my wife to send you a certified cashiers check via UPS or USPS courier service which will take only 3-5 business working days to get to you, cos this is the only means of payment i can offer you now due to my present departing schedule. And you should not worry about the shipping, i have my shipper that will come down to your location for the pick up as soon as payment is done and clarified. So to issue out payment to you, you'll have to email me: 1,Name to be written on check..................... 2,Full Contact Address to send the check...................... 3,Your Contact Telephone Numbers..................... Awaiting to read from you soonest. Sincerely, Philips. |
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See the similarity - the broken English. He accepts Gene's information and goes on with his explanation of what will happen next. He hints that there will be a shipper. He'll send more than enough money and he'll ask Gene to send the extra money to a "shipper". After that, NOTHING happens; NO shipper ever comes; the cashier's check bounces, and Gene would be out whatever money he sends.
These emails can come from ANYBODY, claiming to be from ANY country...
We have one more example. This one came from Jeff, who used our ad page. Jeff went so far as to actually RECEIVE the scammer's check!... Take a look right here.
~Meli~ |
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