Hi Again, This email was sent to us by Jeff F. from Springfield, Massachusetts. He posted an ad to sell a tractor on our classified ads page. An attempt was made to scam him. He kept a record of all of the correspondance with the scammer and forwarded it to us. Being a "forward" it was all in reverse order when I got it, so I have changed it so that it reads in the order it all happened. I have also changed Jeff's personal info and email address. Jeff's interpretation of what happened is exactly the same as what we have been explaining to you; we just wanted to include ANOTHER fresh example. This is what jeff sent us. |
Hi Meli
This is a scam attempted by two different people after reading my ad on retired tractors. You may want to warn readers. The idea is to send the seller a check over the listed amount and have the seller send money to a shipper. The check turns out to be bogus and the seller is out of the money. Jeff |
And here is all of Jeff's correspondance with the scammer:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Marthen" < joemarthensbusiness@gmail.com > > Sent: Monday, August 9, 2010 7:22:49 AM > Subject: YOUR TRACTOR FOR SALE > > Hello, > I Am Joe Martens , i saw your advert on the . retiredtractors.com for > sale.Please kindly get back to me with all this details below if still > avaliable for sale such as :- > 1.The Present Condition ? > 2.Your Asking Price For It ? > 3.The Recent Pics ?. > I will be looking forward to have all this details from you as soon as > possible,so that we can proceed further. > Regards, Joe Martens > > > > > On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 1:30 PM, < jeff@jeff's email.net > wrote: > > She runs now...any engine work is up to you. If you take it apart and clean > everything and replace worn parts you could be busy. I am not aware of any > major engine work ever done. I rebuilt the water pump and generator. 4 speed > is original as is the transmission and rear end. The leaf springs in the > back probably need to be replaced at some point, the rear fender needs some > work. Running boards are good except for the last inch or two that seemed to > have been cut off, gas tank replaced about 10 years ago. Tires are very good > from a UPS truck. 8 lug tires - not the original widow maker split rims... > Bed goes up and down on the hinge (manually of course), Yes there is rust > but metal is very good overall. Price is 2450. Condition is fair to good all > things considered but that is very subjective. > > Jeff > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe Marthen" < joemarthensbusiness@gmail.com > > To: "jeff f" < jeff@jeff's email.net > > Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:39:49 AM > Subject: TRACTOR FOR SALE > > Hiya , > > Thanks for the mail. I am very much interested in purchasing your TRACTOR > while i am okay with the asking which is $ 2450. .00 while i will make you > an offer of $ 2450. .00 for you to declare the TRACTOR sold out to me and > for the shipment i don't want you to get yourself worry about that i will > have my personal assistance to contact you for the pick up at your > destination as soon as the fund cleared into your bank .He will be coming to > your location for the pick up as soon as you get the payment Cash . > > I hope you accept Cashier Check for the payment?If so get back to me with > the Name and address you want me to send the payment to and ..I will be > looking forward to do business with you. > > Cheers > Joe > > > > > On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 10:31 AM, < jeff@jeff's email.net > wrote: > > Ad price was for $ 2150 so that is what I would be asking. I am selling the > plow separately as not everyone wants one. The cell phone number on the ad > is incorrect. I have attached some pix of the tractor - the green is not > standard John Deere and the seat is not original and no lights attached - > all else is. Let me know if still interested as I may pull the ad as I just > sold a different vehicle and may decide to keep the tractor. I have a Paypal > account for payment. I can assist in loading the tractor on a flatbed. > > Jeff > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe Marthen" < joemarthensbusiness@gmail.com > > To: "jeff f" < jeff@jeff's email.net > > Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 8:34:25 AM > Subject: TRACTOR FOR SALE > > Hello Jeff > > Thanks for the mail.Email me with the detail you want me to forward the > cashier check to you as soon as possible.. > > I dont have account with Paypal > > Cheers > Joe > > > > > On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 11:33 PM, < jeff@jeff's email.net > wrote: > > My address is: > > Jeff F., 999 Nameless Road, Springfield, MA 01108. > > How would you pick up the tractor? I can send bill of sale to you or have it > waiting when you pick up the tractor. > Jeff > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe Marthen" < joemarthensbusiness@gmail.com > > To: "jeff f" < jeff@jeff's email.net > > Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 9:59:12 AM > Subject: PAYMENT ON IT WAYS > > Hello . > > Thanks for the detail for the payment .I am still very much interested in > buying while i want you to declare sold out to me and you are to watch out > for the payment in the mail by next week and keep me posted as soon as it > arrive at your destination for me to instruct my Shipping agent to contact > you for the pick up > > Looking forward to do business with you > > Hope to hear from you soon . > > Thanks > JOE > > > > > On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 10:08 PM, < jeff@jeff's email.net > wrote: > > Check has not arrived and I have delayed speaking with other potential > buyers. I will repost the ad if no sign of check by this Friday. Thank you - > Jeff > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe Marthen" < joemarthensbusiness@gmail.com > > To: "jeff f" < jeff@jeff's email.net > > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 6:29:57 AM > Subject: PAYMENT ON IT WAYS > > Hello .. > > Thanks for the patient of Payment .The payment as already been issue to you > and sent to your destination while i want you to watch out for the payment > in the mail and follow the instruction inside the payment and get back to me > as soon as you sign for it in the mail by this week .. > > Looking forward to hear from you as soon as you receive the payment in the > mail by this week ...I am very sorry for the delay of payment due to my > Daughter Cancer sickness ...Hope to hear from you this week as soon as it > arrive in the mail > > Thanks for your Trust and Understanding > > Cheers > Joe > > > > > On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 6:37 PM, < jeff@jeff's email.net > wrote: > > If check is here Friday then fine otherwise I will contact other buyers. The > best to you and your family. Jeff > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe Marthen" > To: "jeff f" < jeff@jeff's email.net > > Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 11:12:53 AM > Subject: CHECK YOUR POST MAIL FOR THE PAYMENT NOW !!!!!!! > > Hello > > Thanks for the Patient of Payment ..I just received a call from the post > that the payment as been delivered to your mail box while i want you to make > sure you check the post mail now and follow the instruction giving to you > and let me know for me to instruct you on what next to do concerning the > Pick up from your destination ....To enable my shipping agent to contact you > at your destination for the pick up > > I will be looking forward to hear from you the moment you have the payment > with you and also keep me posted regarding the instruction given to you for > me to elite you what next to do to contact my shipping agent about the > picking up from your destination ..Looking forward to hear from you about > the payment ...Get back to me today Regarding the instruction inside the > Payment .. > > Cheers > Joe Martens > > > > On 8/28/10, jeff f < jeff@jeff's email.net > wrote: > > Is an alias of yours Thomas Moore? A check came for me - way too much money > with an RE; of Thomas Moore. I am turning it over to my bank for further > action from the authorities. > > You are one of two people who I believe are running a scam...I am turning > this check over to my bank and the authorities. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jeff f" < jeff@jeff's email.net > > To: "Joe Marthen" > Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 1:22:08 PM > Subject: No payment here my friend > > No payment has arrived so your "post" is inaccurate. How did you send the > payment? Did you send with a return receipt? > Frankly I do not trust you or this charade of a transaction. I am selling > the tractor elsewhere.. > > Go scam someone else. > > Cheers to you too. > > J > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Marthen" To: "jeff f" < jeff@jeff's email.net > Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 7:12:19 PM Subject: Re: Odd check arrived today Hello Thanks for the mail..MY banker told me that the amount is more than the purchase while i want you to make sure you get it cash from your bank today and get back intouch with me for the pick up at your destination as soon as possible.. Looking forward to hear from you soon .. Cheers Joe ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "jeff f" < jeff@jeff's email.net > To: "Joe Marthen" Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 8:09:21 PM Subject: Re: Odd check arrived today I have contacted TD Bank to discuss your fraudulent check. Move on my friend...no scamming here. Go buy another "tractor" somewhere else. J. |
I think the scammer really BLEW this one. He probably runs dozens of these at a time and can't keep track of all of them. Evidently his instructions to Jeff on how to pay the shipper were only included in the envelope with the check, so the "scam" part of the operation didn't dawn on Jeff until the check finally came. And then, something or other had someone ELSE'S name on it. Fortunately for Jeff, this scammer was careless and STUPID!!
Don't forget, these emails can come from ANYBODY, claiming to be from ANY country...
And YOU... the scammer.... if you are reading this... yes YOU !!! I'd like you to get in touch with ME because I have this great old bridge in Brooklyn that I can give you a real GOOD deal on.......
~Meli~ |
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